[Scott Anderson]

the other two use IntelliJ so of course they’re real smug about being able “their” editor being able to handle any directory structure.

I believe you just mean for code and tag completion right? I don’t believe IntelliJ has any concept of deployment of J2EE projects, or am I mistaken?

On the flexible projects, we hear you. We standardized on the layouts specified in the J2EE spec, much like WSAD and other J2EE tools have, but have a more flexible interpretation of it that IBM does. However, it still doesn’t support deployment of arbitrarily configured projects that are glued together with custom Ant scripts. We do have an open enhancement for our JSP editor to be able to add completions in non-MyEclipse web projects, which also might help a bit.

[rgraham]

@support-scott wrote:

the other two use IntelliJ so of course they’re real smug about being able “their” editor being able to handle any directory structure.

I believe you just mean for code and tag completion right? I don’t believe IntelliJ has any concept of deployment of J2EE projects, or am I mistaken?

No, you’re correct. But quite honestly, code and tag completion is a lot bigger deal than deployment; the latter can easily be accomplished via Ant (or even done manually) whereas the former requires a much more intelligent tool.

We do have an open enhancement for our JSP editor to be able to add completions in non-MyEclipse web projects, which also might help a bit.

Thanks for the tip, I’ll have to check that out.

[nemec]

Riyad, any progress or estimates in this area?
Cannot commit to switching to MyEclipse until I have this feature.
The project structure change is completely out of discussion. 🙁

[Riyad Kalla]

nemec,
Some updates in this area are:

Confirmed for 3.8 GA so far:
1) WebRoot can == Project Root, a lot of people asked for this and couldn’t use the mandatory WebRoot folder due to legacy apps, so that’s in.
2) New JSP editor, better autocomplete, basic refactoring support, pretty colors.
3) This week the dev team/management are discussing the requiretments for truely flexible project structure… I can say with 90% certainty that this will not be in 3.8, but will be a huge target for 3.9. While this may “totally suck” for some people’s timeline, the amount of last minute work going into 3.8 to get all the goodies from WTP integrated has trippled any work we had predicted that needed to get done before we release.

I don’t have more details at this time about a timeline for the project structure or how it will behave, although you are welcome to ask later on to see if we have more info. We really appreciate your patience in this matter and know that all it takes is for an IDE to miss one major feature and it makes it about as useful as a sock with a hole in it.

Hang in there, we’ll get it right, I promise 😉

[nemec]

Riyad, thanks for your nice reply (as usual, I must say).
I really love your open and honest way of explaining things with
as many internal details as possible.
The possibility of not getting the flexible projects is sad (of course)
but the reasons are valid and I hope you will get as many as possible
features finished in 3.8 – trusting your prioritization.

Richard

[kikepv]

so, any news about the flexible project structure?

I’m trying to work with myeclipse and struts, and as I’ve got my struts-config.xml file in my config dir on the project root, myeclipse keeps on complaining this is not a myeclipse web project.

Any news then?

[Scott Anderson]

Kikpv,

From the time of this original posting, our projects have gotten much more flexible in the way they allow dependent projects and libraries to be configured. Unfortunately, for MyEclipse to be able to effectively package and deploy a project for debugging, it really needs to understand the layout quite explicitly. We’ll continue to iterate and improve to provide more flexible structures, but for right now if you want to use our Struts tools, the project needs to be one of our web projects so our tools can locate all the metadata they need and so deployment is possible.

[kikepv]

and, if i don’t want to use myeclipse to deploy or debug, can’t i tell the environment – this is the struts config file, here it is the web.xml file, etc? Do I have to stick to the standard folder structure to work with it?

thanks in advance

[Riyad Kalla]

kikepv,
For now the layout of the project is important, later it won’t be so important. I don’t have an exact time line but it’s something we’ve been wanting to change for over a year now so it should be sooner than later.

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