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Ajax support in 4.1M2

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  • #243600 Reply

    chs
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    I downloaded 4.1M2 and have been trying to find the Ajax functionality. Where is it? Any plans for a tutorial or howto on how to use it within myeclipseide?

    Thanks.

    #243604 Reply

    Kapil Kapre
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    #243608 Reply

    David Orriss Jr
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    Kapil,

    I think I missed something.. this is a *great* topic on the JavaScript support but I don’t see the connection between this and AJAX (aside from it being JavaScript of course).

    #243609 Reply

    zapa
    Member

    Ajax is a buzz word nowdays , and I guess “Ajax functionality” sounds good to many in an overview . It can be argued that a few years down the road any website that uses some javaScript would most likely have ajax features , in which case u’d need an “ajax editor” for that 😛

    But seriosly , i fail to understand what else an editor can do at tis point in time for ajax , other than helping with javaScript

    #243611 Reply

    Kapil Kapre
    Member

    Guys,
    Naturally a JS debugger and editor is necessary to create/maintain any AJAX – “enabled” website, But what kind of docs are you guys looking for / will be helpful? We have kicked of the documentation with a good example of how users can specifically use our tools for working on their sites.
    Thanks,
    Kapil

    #243612 Reply

    zapa
    Member

    I personally think that a “true” Ajax editor in the end , won’t have anything to do with JavaScript . I’ve been using some higher level component frameworks lately that encapsulate ajax functionality and allow the dev to configure ajax components in his code without touching any javascript , even minimal html and css .

    When such ajax implementation frameworks get more mature , that’s when i’d like to see a true ajax editor that allows you to build applications VB style . ( don’t shoot me 🙂 ) However most such things that are available right now are way too … green … for anybody to try and waste time building serious IDE’s on top of them .

    Untill then , I think you guys did a great job on the javaScript editor 😛

    #243613 Reply

    David Orriss Jr
    Participant

    I think what most people really need is to understand what AJAX is (to some degree that includes me). If they read these articles *first*.. then it makes more sense how the JavaScript developement enhancements in MyEclipse really help…

    http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-wsajax/

    http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2EE/AJAX/

    AJAX really is a bit of a buzzword that refers to a specific application of JavaScript technology. MyEclipse is making it possible to easily debug and develop the JavaScript parts of those applications without having to leave the MyEclipse environment.

    #243614 Reply

    zapa
    Member

    Here’s the demo for an java based Ajax set of web components : http://tacos.mine.nu/tacos-demo4/app

    Implementing theese components does not require a single line of Js ( allthogh many get generated in your rendered page of course ) . They sit on top of the dojo js framework and the tapestry web framework

    #243656 Reply

    Scott Anderson
    Participant

    The core of the way AJAX is implemented today is indeed JavaScript (the ‘J’ in ‘AJAX’ afterall). As a first step in building out our new AJAX support, we shipped a greatly enhanced JavaScripted editor and a JavaScript debugger as part of 4.1M2. But these are just the first of many steps we’ll be taking to increase our AJAX support. We simply started there because right now most AJAX applications have lots of JavaScript in them and there was just no good way to edit and debug it within Eclipse. Now that we’ve delivered on those two fundamental requirements, we’ll be increasing our support in other areas going forward. For example, support for one or more AJAX frameworks might be a good idea at some point, after the market has told us which frameworks those are based on their usage rates. JavaScript now, more later. 🙂

    #243672 Reply

    zapa
    Member

    makes sense

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