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I doubt I’ll renew my subscription either, if the tools can’t keep up with something as important as Seam then honestly, I’ll just use eclipse by itself and install the couple of plugins I use all the time. Sorry, but that’s the way it is.
Kurt,
You need to do what is most productive for you and your team, even if that means not staying with us. We’d love to be the end-all solution to everyone out there, but feature implementations (mostly easy) ongoing support (harder) and bugfixes over the life of the product (hard) are not something our management team jumps on without a good cause.I realize to the folks needing Seam support, it seems like we all have our heads up our asses and can’t understand why it’s not in *yet*, but for the half million other developers using MyEclipse that have yet to read their first Seam tutorial, it may drive them to drop their subscription if we don’t improve feature <insert some other favorite technology here>.
It’s a real juggling act hitting the most effective points each release. I would point out that it’s getting obvious to me that Seam is going to be a big player because of the adoption rate we are seeing on our forums of it, so I can’t imagine we won’t address it at some point, but I also cannot commit to anything either, so it wouldn’t be fair to throw out hollow promises to entice you to stay.
If you do leave, hopefully we can win you back as a customer with a future release.
While Seam is quite new and more specific to JBoss at this time, it is not the case for EJB3.
I decided not to renew my MyEclipse subscription for my R&D team a few months ago when I realized there would be no EJB3 features in ME 5.0/5.1 despite the fact it was requested by a large nr of people on this forum. Not talking about of pro-activity.
I’ll consider buying the subscription again if I have clear information on when and how EJB3 will be supported.
Sorry for being rude.
Bernard
EJB3 support *is* coming sooner than Seam support. I know the EJB3 technology was done already internally but I don’t know what management’s action-plan was as a result of it. If it’s not in the next release, it will be in the one after that.
@starbe wrote:
While Seam is quite new and more specific to JBoss
Let me clarify this: JBoss Seam does not depent on JBoss.
It does not even need an app server. Seam e.g. also runs on plain Tomcat.
A MyEclipse user, balanceofpower, as put together his “Lazy Guide to MYEclipse and Seam” here for anyone that wants to take a look:
https://www.genuitec.com/forums/topic/lazy-guide-to-seam-in-myeclipse/&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=@support-rkalla wrote:
EJB3 support *is* coming sooner than Seam support. I know the EJB3 technology was done already internally but I don’t know what management’s action-plan was as a result of it. If it’s not in the next release, it will be in the one after that.
That doesn’t sound too promising. EJB3 came out in the middle of last year, it is a central standard in Java, and MyEclipse may not support it until Q3/2007? Instead we get “Offering a number of light weight RCP applications for non-workspace file editing. The list of Simple + Nimble APplications (SNAPs) include:
# Visual Web Designer for HTML/JSP development/editing
# Database Explorer
# Image editor with screen capture
# UML development
# Others based on user demands”Who the heck has requested that? Or is that something marketing came up with – the acronym surely sounds like it (SNAPs)? Well, maybe you just wanted to have something that nobody else has for bragging rights…
To me, “SNAP” just doesn’t make sense – I mean MyEclipse is an IDE where the “I” stands for “Integrated”. Why would I want to edit a JSP just by itself outside of MyEclipse without deploying, running or debugging it in MyEclipse? I would rather have MyEclipse getting a working XHTML editor or supporting Seam that this feature which I think is useless for a lot of users.
Sorry for being so in rant mode, but these doubtful (at best) features mean other stuff (XHTML, Facelets, EJB3) hasn’t made it into 5.0 / 5.1 and may not make it into 5.5 or 6.0.
Karsten
Riyad,
I need to know when EJB3 support will come and what it will include. My developers have had a look a NetBeans and want to use it instead of Eclipse bc it includes the EJB3 we are waiting for and more.
If you tell me I’ll get it in the coming 5.5 for end of march I just can let them wait. Again I’m waiting for an EJB3 enabled release of MyEclipse to buy some more subscription, if it comes soon enough !
Bernard
k, MyEclipse guys.
With the huge growth of Seam/Icefaces can we please have any indication of when the support for Seam (EJB3) and IceFaces will appear.
IceFaces already do a MYEcdlipse plugin but I have not seen it arrive in any update.
Seam guys do some eclipse tools but I think they use NetBeans out of preference (for some reason).I am building Seam apps very successfully with MyEclipse but I feel that more could be done…
See my response here: https://www.genuitec.com/forums/topic/jboss-seam-facelets-and-ejb3-support/#post-265890
