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Hello All:
I am very excited to see that MyEclipse is embracing AJAX. The technology is still in it’s infancy and the kinks are still being worked out (unless people like one user adding himself to a 100,000 user’s buddy list). I am wondering if anyone else out there has thought about AJAX features or widgets that could be included in future releases of MyEclipse.
I know for me the two Widgets that I would love to have prepackaged are:
* Progress Meter
* Spell CheckerAnybody have any thoughts? Anybody using AJAX in their applicaitons yet?
All the very best!
-Jason
Jason good idea for a thread. I believe the idea is out the door to have tools that support AJAX development in their infancy. From there we will start making the tools sexier and sexier in addition to bundling some frameworks so people can really get started fast. Some of the most popular ones we’ve seen are prototype, scrip.tacul.ous (sp?) and dojo.
If you know of JS components that provide the func you mentioned, please include links.
Have you checked out http://ajaxtags.sourceforge.net/ ? I have played with them only a little – but from a java guy who’s not real big on javascript right now, they seem to be pretty good. Anyone else have any experience w/ them?
I just looked at AjaxTags again. They have some improved tags in v1.1. I myself am not big JavaScript person. I have often found it to be the bane of my existence so don’t tread where so many others have gone (esp since I hate cross browser issues).
There seem to be so many AJAX sources out there trying to get a foothold in this emerging technology. It will be really nice to see how the technology settles and what becomes standard. I concentrate mostly on Java & Struts but want those nice widgets to make my customers happy. The problem I always seem to face is page loads on reports. I would love that progress meter to keep my clients satisfied.
Haven’t used them so far but thank you very much for the reference.
-J
Just my opinion, but I’d like to see framework authors working on this (JSF, tapestry, Struts) rather than having the MyEclipse team work on it. Really, it’s the domain of the web framework to enable AJAX functionality. I’d love to see MyEclipse stick with aiding in J2EE development tools (like support for facelets, web services, wizards to create pages for basic CRUD, etc) rather than get into the web framework business. Finally, I don’t really want to start mixing Struts/JSF HTML tags with 3rd party AJAX tags that mimic the same functions (to add spellcheck to a textarea, for instance).
I’d love to see MyEclipse stick with aiding in J2EE development tools (like support for facelets, web services, wizards to create pages for basic CRUD, etc) rather than get into the web framework business
Don’t worry about that, we likely won’t get into the development of a framework; that’s old school thinking when you could corner your users into a IDE/Framework combo, that’s not the way we roll 😉
Cool, thanks ‘rkalla’! Did you notice my plug for facelets support?? 🙂
By the way, this author (see link below) seems to have an offering where you simply wrap existing JSF tags in his own AJAX tags to enable asynchronous submits/page updates with existing JSF components! The demo seems to use unmodified MyFaces components except that commandLink and panel tab clicks are all xmlHttpRequests! Very cool stuff! http://smirnov.org.ru/en/ajax-jsf.html
I was just trying to throw something out there and seeing what sticks. I have greatly benefited from all the work that the MyEclipse team has put into core functionality thus far and don’t want to send them down the “fad of the moment” path.
I just figured we could throw this out to the community and see what the general thoughts, insights, and directions may be. Since AJAX was mentioned twice in the Roadmap I figured I would inquire as to what was being planned.
Looking forward to 4.1 and 5.0. I always love showing the people at my client site how amazing MyEclipse is.
I guess I should look into Facelets as well!
-J
One of the biggest things comming in 4.1 is going to be the JavaScript debugger. Basically imagine being able to set breakpoints in your Javascript and step through it, like you do Java code, JSP code, etc…. well that’s what you will be able to do.
There is a ton of hibernate/spring work comming in this release too, new image editor, bugfixes and enhancements across the boards, etc. Actually a new and noteworthy should be going up in the next few days. Unfortunately we had to push 4.1 back 2 weeks. Instead we are polishing M2 to include everything, release that, then based on user feedback and our own internal testing fix all the bugs, performance issues, etc. that arrise and release 4.1 about 2-3 weeks late but we promise it will be worth it.
That sounds good. Is the Enterprise Workbench Progress section of the home page going to updated to reflect this new release schedule?
You should also take a look at AjaxAnywhere. http://ajaxanywhere.sourceforge.net/ Works well with MyFaces through the concept of ‘Zones”. Author is responsive and very helpful.
